Remove all evasive skills from all marksmans!!

izaidi

I think your problem right now is not all marksman, instead just Karrie. Marksman counter is almost always an assasin..maybe some other hero with high stun like freya, chou, eudora, zilong, gatut, tigreal..well..too many to spell it here. So you see, a team with 5 mm will lose in teamfight..always. That is to say, if ur team doesnt have teamwork, where everyone just rushing to kill 1 by 1, then die, thats too bad for you.

The point is, stop hating mm, instead learn how to play with your team. Initiate better, dont just rush to kill without checking the map for allies and enemies

Ditya

I don't quite agree with that, all marksman have a low durability one surprise attack and boom they're gone, one disable skill from mage and boom they're gone. i think all marksman need an evasive skill.

dieru

Ditya replied at 2017-8-6 02:21 PM
I don't quite agree with that, all marksman have a low durability one surprise attack and boom they' ...

Low durability or they make retard burst damage build? Even another class like assassin never go full retard. For example do you even find some mm that build magic blade? I guess no. They always say eudora is op with ridiculously high damage that can reap mm in one combo. But do they ever build a defense item? U got one combo kill by fanny?? Just build immortality or bloodthirsty king. It is not that mm is in low durability. They build that makes them low durability.

Thewingman287

dieru replied at 2017-8-6 03:41 PM
Low durability or they make retard burst damage build? Even another class like assassin never go f ...

I build layla with windtalker which has 125 magic damage and i also add a lots of critical damage, so pretty much every hit with over 1400 physical damage plus every 4 hit have 250 magic damage (say 2 magic hits within 2 sec). It kills anything if you have the right build. But it i just stand there i get kill easily too. You need to constantly position yourself in the safe and right place, which is why im really bad when using Clint, he jump back and dont make the correct way as i dont really know this hero, regardless how good the evasion skill is.

CaoPi

I would like to vote, but I think if all mm will nerfed I'll just get my YSS on mess, since his second skill usually take quite some time to active (he's already dead before use it if lag actually), and his third skill 60 sec cd. And the truth is, other so ego player took all the buff before I can try to get it. I ever met a Karina who took all buff, even on enemies lane (all cleann), then just die a useless death without push nor help other team mate. Maybe you bothered by mm, but using brain trick can finish ur problem la. I'm YSS main, but trying to use Zilong, and still can deal with mm (make sure just 1 v 1, or need pure luck to mess with many of them safely) Just luck and think.

dieru

CaoPi replied at 2017-8-6 09:24 PM
I would like to vote, but I think if all mm will nerfed I'll just get my YSS on mess, since his seco ...

What i want to say here is the game is always marksman centered. That's why marksman always go mid lane and will blame other role if they are taking mid. Consider about it! Have you see any other role in mid beside the cancer marksman? This game used to have mage in mid but now all marksman dominate mid almost in every game!! So what other role should be? Jungler? Marksmans always go jungle too! Do marksmans need support to survive in lane? I guess no! It bring cancer to the role itself! Why you even playing support? Just take an example if you main mage and go mid. Can you even stop that marksmans growth for a while? I guess not since it is hard for mage itself to kill marksman in lane! Try to play another moba and see if your carry can survive in the mid lane vs a good mage in early game! Have you see the difference in gold of good marksmans vs all of your team money? Since they all takes lane and jungle they can go about 1000 gold per minute without even trying to survive! You can creeping in lane? Just go jungle. If enemy try to gank you in the jungle? Just use double survival skills if you have flicker! Too easy! I also played a lot of games with marksman role and i found it too easy to reach 1000 gold per minute without any support in lane. (My hand over fist achievement is full anyway --) The survival skills of a marksman is what make them hard to kill and hard to punish! So what is rewarding if you play agressive playstyle?? Like focus on early game and make their carry have not much money? Nothing! Just play a games like 5 mages vs 5 marksman and see who will win!

beklog

Not all MM got evasion skills and the drawbacks on MMs are they got poor survivability. So for me they're balance except for Karrie.

LordAbsol720

If u hate mm use natalia, dont be a kid

iamfeeder

Simple. Make flicker as an item. They will have second thought to buy it. Huahahaha!

CaoPi

dieru replied at 2017-8-7 12:00 AM
What i want to say here is the game is always marksman centered. That's why marksman always go mid ...

Wew, thats epic, I must admit, since your hand of fist is finished. Mine just two stars. You a good mm user after all, why you complain about mm? And you know, I ever use Zilong to kill around 30, my money beat Miya and other mm in progress. I guess you should depend on luck and team mate to help. I do that kill with Estes help, I wont able to resist enemy mm if he don't accompany me, you shouldn't underestimate support help or you will be doomed lol.