Remove all evasive skills from all marksmans!!

Tehkopisusu

CalvinTan replied at 2017-8-5 09:57 PM
pfft do you play marksman and meet a pro assasint before? i quess NO. a good assasint user like nata ...

pfft do you play assassin and meet a pro marksman before? i guess NO. A good marksman user like moskov, karrie, roger, and miya can take down a assassin in just a blink. Clint with a full item can kill natalia in just 3 NORMAL  ATTACK. With his passive there's no way to dodge if u dont get help from ur team or flicker out. Moskov is hard marksman to use, but someone who can use him can kill assassins with just his 2nd skill. Miya? u got stunned and u will die. why? because a good miya player always find a good spot to hit, and when she got stunned, she use her ult and hit again. Roger for me is the hardest marksman to master in ML but roger damage is insanely high in early game till late game, and he have a very good mobility if u know how to use his skills.
Thats what u said (reversed) and it is still valid.

Just say it, MARKSMAN IS OP TO THE POINT THAT THEY DONT NEED DEFENSIVE ITEM TO SURVIVE.
MOST ASSASSINS, MAGE, AND FIGHTER STILL NEED DEFENSIVE ITEM TO SURVIVE BECAUSE THEY ARE EITHER MELEE OR DONT HAVE SURVIVABILITY SKILLS. MARKSMAN WITH DODGE SKILLS SHOULD BE NERFED (DAMAGE OR REMOVE THAT BULLSHIT).

BusterCall

I agree to say that Marksman take a place too important in the team.
Best dammage + Best range. It's also whu i find bruno better than miya, bruno got an evasion skill.

Tehkopisusu

beklog replied at 2017-8-7 09:27 AM
Not all MM got evasion skills and the drawbacks on MMs are they got poor survivability. So for me th ...

marksman:
moskov = blink, ranged knockback + stun.
karrie = 2 sec short blink
roger = 2 blink, 1 movement speed boost
miya = 1 super purify
clint = 1 blink
YSS = 1 blink
layla = no shit

Mage:
gord = unreliable stun
alice = blink (but must be casted first) + melee root
nana = 1 stun + delayed area stun
kagura = 2 blink ( 1 must be casted, 1 has to wear umbrella)
cyclops = 1 movement speed boost, 1 delayed root
aurora = 1 stun
vexana = 1 unreliable grab
eudora = 1 ranged stun

now u said that marksman has poor survivability??
okay it may be poor but at least it is BETTER THAN MAGE!
THE ONLY MARKSMAN THAT HAS SHITTIER SURVIVABILITY IS LAYLA!

dieru

Tehkopisusu replied at 2017-8-8 07:19 PM
marksman:
moskov = blink, ranged knockback + stun.
karrie = 2 sec short blink

that is what i want to say in here. not considering how marksman survival ability surpass some so called assassins.
alpha = use ulti for open, use flicker for run or die in shame
saber = use skill 2 for open = guarantee no escape
karina = some immunity and movement speed boost
alucard = one jump in with cooldown longer than karrie and roger

so do assassins have higher tier of survival skills vs marksman? i guess not
and assassins never use retard full damage burst since they know they wont be survive if they do so.

Oh yes i forgot, since mage can use flicker, so maybe mage is better in survivalibility vs a marksman (based on majority of people supporting mm).

johnhenry205

marksman should be weak that they will needed a support

dieru

johnhenry205 replied at 2017-8-9 09:04 AM
marksman should be weak that they will needed a support

Exactly! If you can kill almost all of other class in mlbb within 3 seconds why you ever need a support??
Not to mention that rafaela heal is useless in this game. 2000 critical damage and they still complain about estes heal!! Ridiculous!! Estes heal is just about 4k HP which is equal to 2 crit damage from marksmans!! Enough to stop karina hayabusa and fanny for doing burst but they can stop mm for being a retard basic attack dps? I guess no!!

aAep

lol. even with their measly evasions, marksmans are food for assassins EVEN Karrie. xD

RAIZUHA

hey TS I get your point. playing MM with evasive skill is like playing easy mode. I agree to change all evasive skill on MM to other utility skill like slow, silence, buff, or shield. Therefore it will makes MM more dependent to other teammates, not an egoistic rambo style hero destroyer. Stop make MM become ranged assassin

goarweam

Karrie is like the dumbest hero ever created.
Her 2nd skill that allows her to pursue you non stop, plus her ultimate that allows her to barrage you with nonstop True Damage.

And I don't need someone to tell me "It all depends on the player and the team".
I am talking about the overall kit of Karrie.

dieru

aAep replied at 2017-8-9 12:55 PM
lol. even with their measly evasions, marksmans are food for assassins EVEN Karrie. xD

Marksmans are food for assassin?
When clint got op item so called thunderbelt even full combo for fanny wont kill him, he will survive since got extra hp and armor! If natalia hunt you just make one defensive item like blade armor/demon advent and mostly you will survive the silent time!!

My friend used to play gord and when fanny hunt him he simply buy one bloodthirsty king so fanny wont one combo kill him! It works also with natalia etc! just build a magic blade and you cant one combo kill most all of the mm

Now see the difference!
Have mm need to consider about his lack of defensive item? No!! Since they dont need it!! They just go full retard build and hit with basic attack since they have range and evasion! So why care to build a defensive item?