Is Harley a Mage?

PjTyrant

as a tank main, harley never been a worry for me, i see harley i just end  up thinking that we won because harley has no CC whatesoever he is just a mage version of an ADC with high mobility powers.

now what is ADC? someone who can aim at one person at a time unless your Miya, but harley does worse in lane phase his biggest weakness is minion block, sure he can jump over minions with his second skill but if the enemy laners has CC he might end up taking more damage by doing that.

now those were my thoughts before playing harley and honestly he was really fun to build with,  his passive allows him to go between magic and physical equips which gives him a variety.

when playing him i realised how easy it is to push a lane and get out no matter how far your over extended they would need to send at least 4 people to deal with you.

but in a team fight he is still the worst thing You can get for a mage who is supposed to be a big influance in team fights. a mage job is to offer the magical element in a Team full of physical heroes, and do massive AOE damage or CC like aurora, pharsa that can influance and turn a team fight to the teams favor. Cyclops also counts because of his first skill piercing through enemies and his annoying ULT that can catch people out with a big CC.

no matter how i played him harley will always be the type to push lane or surprise squeeshies at the back line of a team fight like an assassin/ADC so i believe harley shouldnt be considered a mage, his more like karina in a way, even if karina does magic damage you will still need a mage for the big Team fight Influance or such, which is what most teams did.

anyway what do you guys think, should Harley be considered a mage although technicially he is a magician? let us know in the comments.

BD007

Obviously Harley is a mage.

I only play 2 mages, harley and cyclops.

Each are different. Cyclops is kinda more burst damage with no escape ability where harley is kinda mage/assassin type who is good for 1v1 and also has escape ability.

in team fight cyclops has better contribution than harley. but harley is good also. you can use your ulti. if your team mate is clever enough, they will target that enemy who has the ring lol . to me harley is a very good mage and currently best mage to anti kagura. if any mage can anti kagura thats harley.

every hero has different ability and different purpose. so does harley. so you cant use him like traditional mage in team fight. i hope you understand. but if you use it wisely, it can be good assist in team fight too.

today i got maniac with harley. in rank match. and i am in mythic rank.

if you need any tipis you can ask me. i will help you as much as i can.

Thanks.

PjTyrant

BD007 replied at 2018-2-26 08:26 PM
Obviously Harley is a mage.

I only play 2 mages, harley and cyclops.

alright and let me guess you went behind the enemy team like karina and targeted the squeeshies.

yes harley helps in team fights like an assassin but not like a mage.

he does good burst damage to one enemy at a time like a fed ADC.

i hope you red through my blog without skimming.

chung2

For him to be solely an Assassin, they need to change his attacking animations. He uses a staff right now and throws magic bolts. Although he could be dual typed as a Mage/Assassin with Poke/Push/Burst specialty.

Either way, does label really matter though? I mean, at the end of the day IMO label makes no difference whatsoever. He could still be used in place of an Assassin, and if someone takes him you could take another Mage along to do CC.

sadslick

I find him more of an assassin, especially with that mobility and spammable abilities, great cc for chase.

queen.kira

He is a mage/assassin like Karina...

PjTyrant

hottudoggu replied at 2018-2-26 09:18 PM
its obvious, hes a tank, and cc is his forte. hes good in team fights with the cc he provides, but h ...

not sure if your trolling or being serious.

his ULT barely does CC it only slows, and its a freaking ULT you wont have it up as often as you like to make it a decent CC tool.

PjTyrant

queen.kira replied at 2018-2-26 09:48 PM
He is a mage/assassin like Karina...

i dont think he is even a mage. he is more of an adc because of his first skill giving attack speed and his passive making ADC based items reliable for him.

he can assassinate like karina

take turrets like an ADC

but no aoe or CC like a mage.


karina is a mage though, you can find her in the mage section but we gotta think for our selfs what is a mage, why do we need to pick a mage when we have karina in our team.

Ar3neKn1ght

He still mage but he also pseudo (fake) assassin. Unlike other mage, he usually roaming around the jungle site, ambush enemy farming and more likely as assassin. I dont know mage or not but I consider him as assassin, not mage.