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[Request] Anyone know how local rankings work?

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Post time 2018-5-23 10:23 PM | Show all posts |Read mode

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Cause I have to say, I'm pretty thoroughly confused. I've been working on getting my Ruby local ranking back up after i stopped playing for a while. Went from rank 1 all the way down to rank 18

After a week or so, I'm back up to rank 4-5 now, so i've been keeping tabs on the players ahead/around me. However, rank 3 baffles me. Only has about 150 matches with Ruby (and about 50% win rate), yet is still a couple hundred points ahead of me. And looking, they haven't even been playing Ruby much lately. Me on the otherhand, I got 54-55% win rate and 800 games (and for my local rankings, I have nearly double the closest within the top 10 rankings in terms of games played). So basically, how in the world are the rankings set?! I don't mind being lower ranked than them, but I just don't understand it at all. My win rate is higher and i have nearly double the matches, so I'm a bit lost

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Post time 2018-5-24 12:50 AM | Show all posts
Hero points increase through rank game, more rank game even though win or loose your rank points increases but ofcourse win adds more points than loose.
 Author| Post time 2018-5-24 02:18 AM | Show all posts
Yea, that part I understand just fine. But it's not like of my 800 games, 500 of them are classic or something. At least 80% is ranked. For the most part, that guy in 3rd with only about 150 matches is what is mostly catching me off guard. With a 50% win rate, I don't understand how you raise up that quickly.
Post time 2018-5-24 02:22 AM | Show all posts
Malicewolf replied at 2018-5-24 02:18 AM
Yea, that part I understand just fine. But it's not like of my 800 games, 500 of them are classic or ...

I got confused, 800 games and 500 of them are classic? then atleast 80% is ranked? 80% of 800 is 640 hmmmm??? maybe that guy uses the hero always what I mean always is that all 150 matches straight for that hero maybe?
 Author| Post time 2018-5-24 03:31 AM | Show all posts
Clay™ replied at 2018-5-24 02:22 AM
I got confused, 800 games and 500 of them are classic? then atleast 80% is ranked? 80% of 800 is 6 ...

Sorry to confuse. I'm saying it's NOT like 500 of MY games with Ruby were in classic (purely using 500 as an example). I have a little over 800 games with Ruby myself. I'm saying at least 80% is ranked games (so as you said, 640). I have a 55% win rate (meaning 352 wins if we use 640).

I'm saying I don't understand how my current local rank 3, who only has 150 matches TOTAL with Ruby and about a 50% win rate (so 75 wins at most), can possibly be ranked so high. Hopefully that helped clarify.
Post time 2018-5-24 07:09 AM From mobile phone | Show all posts
@Malicewolf @Clay™ To my limited knowledge, firstly for MMR you’re right, it’s calculated by win rate + number of matches in rank games. For every season reset, the MMR will automatically drop (not sure exactly how much but it seems to be at least 1500 for my case). Now, at every tier, MMR will rise less and less and drop more and more when you win and lose the higher you are up the tier. For example at legend, MMR rises like only 3ish when you win and drop 5-7 when you lose. Also, you can check your exact win rate and number of matches played in rank on your “guides” icon located on the bottom left side of the UI. And just to add, local server doesn’t mean server of your country but instead all the players who are in the same server ID as you. Basically players from around your region (includes neighbouring countries) that created their accounts roughly at the same time as you. This is why it’s easy to climb local server using a nub account and achieving like 85% win rate on only 100 matches or so.
Post time 2018-5-24 11:36 AM | Show all posts
You just have to use a lot of the hero in every season in rank basically

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@KenBA Yup, but if you already got a high MMR, even after season reset you will still have close to 1000 MMR.  Post time 2018-5-24 11:46 AM
Post time 2018-5-24 06:55 PM | Show all posts
CloudDevelic replied at 2018-5-24 07:09 AM
@Malicewolf @Clay™ To my limited knowledge, firstly for MMR you’re right, it’s calculated by win  ...
For every season reset, the MMR will automatically drop (not sure exactly how much but it seems to be at least 1500 for my case). Now, at every tier, MMR will rise less and less and drop more and more when you win and lose the higher you are up the tier.


Thanks the information! I'm not aware that there is a drop of MMR every season reset. You mean that it is better to push top global in lower tier? Which tier got a high MMR points in every win in rank? maybe we could calculate it.
 Author| Post time 2018-5-24 09:33 PM | Show all posts
@CloudDevelic Thanks! That was very helpful. I didn't know about the guide having all the detailed stats. I got 760 ranked games with Ruby (so more than 80%). Good to know. And didn't realize it was harder to rank up the higher your tier. I thought it might have been the opposite since the top rank is so far ahead and mythic. Didn't realize seasons reset it as well (that would explain my harsh drop from 1 to 18).
Post time 2018-5-25 09:13 AM | Show all posts
@Clay™ @Malicewolf

Glad to help you guys understand more!

Well for lower ranks' MMR, since lower ranks get more power with every win compared to higher ranks, it's easy to get into Top Local servers since if you're using a smurf with 80%++ win rate, in comparison to the newbies in your server, you will definitely score higher than them, hence getting into Top Local.

However, for Top Global, lower ranks will never get into them because:

You need a heck lot of MMR, which smurfing alone won't give because MMR depends on number of matches too, not just win rate. So you need at least 500-700++ matches if you're good to even get into Top Global 1000++ because Top Global is basically the entire servers of MLBB combined. Minimum MMR is around 3000+ to even get into the last positions of Top Global.

With that being said, since you drop more MMR with each match lost in higher ranks, it's a lot harder to climb because your opponents are a lot harder, plus the fact that the power you gain is less compared to lose.

So yea, it's pretty much a fair system where you can't "cheat" your way through Top Global haha.... But generally if you got 3000+ or near 3000 MMR, you're considered above average on the global scale since the Top Globals are 3500++ to 3800; especially if you solo q.
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