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[Query] Why Hilda is OP

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 Author| Post time 2020-7-30 11:41 PM | Show all posts
Edited by AlyAoi at 2020-8-16 10:19 PM
Eizy replied at 2020-7-30 07:54 AM
I don't think she's OP, but she can comeback in the current meta. She's more like Chou in different  ...

Chou is not a tank but Hilda is. Damage from fighter Hilda can be accepted as she can be killed easily. But damage from tank Hilda is not acceptable

Also her ultimate cooldown is lower. Many fighters with less damage has more cooldown on their ultimate. Tanks like Johnson, gatot also has heavy cooldown. Such heavy damage with lower cooldown is not fair

HoaHoa replied at 2020-7-29 12:14 PM
Well yeah, she is now something like a very tanky assassin. She can one combo hit heros, so yeah she ...

No bro. She is good in team fight if you use her like a tank

Chou with tank build is nothing to worry

But Hilda with tank build is catastrophe. Maybe not all players are good with her now. Once they learn her OP ness everyone will try to use her

She may even get a ban
Post time 2020-7-31 02:32 PM | Show all posts
Anand replied at 2020-7-30 11:45 PM
No bro. She is good in team fight if you use her like a tank

Chou with tank build is nothing to w ...

Yeah she is Good. And if she has execute you are dead for sure. So she is tanky strong moves fast and heals hahahaha.
I have been playing Yu Zhong lately and the dragon is stronger than hilda. But when Im badang I cant kill her.
Post time 2020-7-31 05:10 PM | Show all posts
Anand replied at 2020-7-30 11:41 PM
Chou is not a tank but Hilda is. Damage from fighter Hilda can be accepted as she can be killed ea ...

I know that Chou is not a main Tank, he's more like Support with Tank builds. Well, i rarely met someone who pick Hilda to counter me when i pick Chou for 1 v 1 situation but she's definitely strong in early game. That's why i always play safe and try to bait her to gain advantage in fight whenever i met her. But in the end, it depends to the draft pick, micro and macro skills.
 Author| Post time 2020-7-31 11:45 PM | Show all posts
Edited by AlyAoi at 2020-8-16 10:21 PM
Eizy replied at 2020-7-31 05:10 PM
I know that Chou is not a main Tank, he's more like Support with Tank builds. Well, i rarely met s ...

It would be fair if her base damage of the ultimate is reduced a little bit
1800 base damage + 375% physical attack is too much

If her physical attack is 200, 375% physical attack gives 750 additional damage

Total damage of tank Hilda is 1800 + 750 = 2550

One more problem is there is no option to avoid it. It is a hero targeting skill not directional skill. Even tanks cannot stop it and protect the squishy heroes


HoaHoa replied at 2020-7-31 02:32 PM
Yeah she is Good. And if she has execute you are dead for sure. So she is tanky strong moves fast  ...

Yeah. Yu Zhong is a fighter with high hp say around 5000. He got good spell vamp too

So he won't die immediately like mm or mage. Well farmed yuzhong can kill her maybe
Post time 2020-8-1 09:32 AM | Show all posts
Edited by AlyAoi at 2020-8-16 10:21 PM
PhilYan replied at 2020-7-27 12:39 AM
It's her ULT.
Caps lock to emphasize to you.
There's a lot of item to counter it.

I have a question for u philyan, aldous requires late game to deal that much dmg that is fair. Early game is weak as hell, late game shts on u reasonable. However, giving a fighter with the ability to deal more dmg than lancelot by double with no ad items for a fighter with shield and hp regen along with a stun isnt that op? Two, a lot of heroes could deal over 900 dmg with just an auto meaning that twilight amour is useless against that dmg.   

But 1800 dmg is higher than lancelot ult which deals at max 1000 dmg with no items at base dmg.  I would still nerf the dmg a bit. Thats means u could do about 20% of a tanks hp with that dmg at late game.
Post time 2020-8-1 05:18 PM | Show all posts
aznager replied at 2020-8-1 09:32 AM
I have a question for u philyan, aldous requires late game to deal that much dmg that is fair. Ear ...

Still fair.
It's her Ult. And also a single target burst.
While Aldous damage is an AOE and can be spammed
Post time 2020-8-1 07:16 PM | Show all posts
PhilYan replied at 2020-8-1 05:18 PM
Still fair.
It's her Ult. And also a single target burst.
While Aldous damage is an AOE and can be ...

Youre right aldous is spammable, however, when could aldous oneshot u in compared to hilda ult. All Im saying is that hilda could deal a lot of dmg early, mid and late with a skill that oneshots u. Hypercarry meta make it easy to get assissts and kills so it wouldnt be long that one could deal 1000 dmg.  
Post time 2020-8-3 01:41 PM | Show all posts
She can 2 hits a hero because of her ulti, move spd etc as soon as she reaches level 4 and 1 hit a hero by mid game. I support to reduce her early game damage.
 Author| Post time 2020-8-3 05:10 PM | Show all posts
Edited by AlyAoi at 2020-8-16 10:22 PM
PhilYan replied at 2020-8-1 05:18 PM
Still fair.
It's her Ult. And also a single target burst.
While Aldous damage is an AOE and can be ...

When playing marksman Aldous is not a threat because tank will stun him and then marksman will kill him in late game

Hilda is a different story. Tank stun is not enough to kill her. Since it is a single target skill, there is no escape and certain death for the marksman

ciaociao replied at 2020-8-3 01:41 PM
She can 2 hits a hero because of her ulti, move spd etc as soon as she reaches level 4 and 1 hit a h ...

Yes. I am planning to buy Hilda and show everyone what I am talking about
Edit:
I have managed to end my losing streak with Hilda. I guess it's good to play Hilda now.

Some people are spreading false information like her stack will reset after death. But it is not resetting. All you need is (kill + assist =8) to reach max stack

No need to worry about death and just spamming her ultimate
Post time 2020-8-14 12:40 PM | Show all posts
Edited by PAIMON at 2020-8-14 12:41 PM

Hilda is sooooooo op she can easily 1 hit squishy heroes, even the heroes with high mobility
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