Calculation of team fight participation

Anand

CharlieFong replied at 2020-11-13 10:09 AM
You dare to challenge me maths?

By defending lane only with 30 minutes games, total gold earn is ab ...

You are a nob if you earn 12000 or 13000 gold after 30 minutes

At 15 minutes, average players like me will reach 10000+ gold

Pro players will reach 13000+ gold at 15 minutes


My gold rate is very low. It's just near 600 gold per minute

Pro players can reach more than 900 gold per minute

Learn the game first then post

HoaHoa

Well, you did the lowest damage, didn’t touch enemy towers, no assists, and you also took the least damage. You have the highest gold.
This means you just clear minions and focus on jungling. Im not attacking you or defending you. I mean, it was a troll game from the draft pick, you didn’t have a tank.
Lapu lapu died 6 times, but he got the 2 kills, highest damage and highest tanking. So basically you didn’t do anything, minus 3 deaths that equals a score of 3.0  
Yes, I know, the whole team did terrible, and it was impossible to fight the enemy marksman because of the level difference. They were probably a trio and reported you. Plus maybe the enemy reported you as well. So you had something between 3 and 6 reports against you, and the low grades, that equals a punishment.
Again, the punish system could be better, just as you say, punishment for them as well. Nevertheless in this particular game you were the worst player. Doesn’t matter what you wanted to do, what you were thinking, what your plan was… at the end it is just numbers.

Anand

HoaHoa replied at 2020-11-13 02:54 PM
Well, you did the lowest damage, didn’t touch enemy towers, no assists, and you also took the least ...

That's called playing safe

This is how you should play until your build is good to deal damage

Only stupid players will participate in team fight without thinking whether you can kill the enemy or atleast deal reasonable damage to the enemy

When there is no tank, only defensive game can be played. If you play agressively, you will only feed without tank

I am saying this for marksman role.

Things are different if you are mage or assassin. It's a different kind of gameplay for other roles

CharlieFong

I'm sorry I never learn the game. 600 gold/min is normal player, 400 gold/min is n**b, so who has below 300 gold/min is really n**b and hopeless. Maybe what you said is true because you are Legend ranked.

Tank and support are n**b. No, Tank and support are design for n**b, and don't forget the mask too. Now I now why we always blame tank and support when losing game. They are n**b, aren't they?

Maybe you right. The punishment should not base on score, should base on gold/min. Who has 400 gold/min deduct by 8; if below 300 gold/min further deduct by 4, because they are trolling.

Thank you for giving me a good lesson about this game.

Anand

CharlieFong replied at 2020-11-13 06:12 PM
I'm sorry I never learn the game. 600 gold/min is normal player, 400 gold/min is n**b, so who has be ...

I never said less than 600 gold per minute means you are nob

You are nob because you didn't know that an average fighter can farm 600 gold per minute

That's why you are a nob and lack knowledge of the game

You are misleading others and misunderstanding the point

CharlieFong

You are a nob if you earn 12000 or 13000 gold after 30 minutes

At 15 minutes, average players like me will reach 10000+ gold

Pro players will reach 13000+ gold at 15 minutes


My gold rate is very low. It's just near 600 gold per minute

Pro players can reach more than 900 gold per minute

Learn the game first then post

Your 1st phrase, same meaning as "earning 12000 to 13000 after 30 minutes is n**b". Now check: 400 gold/min is less than 600 gold/min; with 400 gold/min, earning 6000 gold at 15 minutes, 12000 gold at 30 minutes, 12400 at 31 minutes, 12800 at 32 minutes; match "earning 12000 to 13000 after 30 minutes"; supporting sentence: your 2nd and 4th phrase, average player like you and low gold close to 600 gold/min; you are being average, so higher is pro, lower is n**b, match with your first phrase; no extra condition; finish check. Yes, you did said less than 600 gold/minute means I am n**b.

By the way, I never said you are n**b, I only said there are problems in your playstyle, but you said I am n**b 3 times, and you are probably do the same thing to your teammates during the game too when they said something on you.

Anand

CharlieFong replied at 2020-11-13 11:14 PM
Your 1st phrase, same meaning as "earning 12000 to 13000 after 30 minutes is n**b". Now check: 400  ...

You are still misunderstanding. I meant that 600 gold per minute for fighters. You understood it as for all roles.

Since we were talking about Minsitthar I didn't mention what role that limit can be applied for.

It's your fault for not understanding it correctly.

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Yep I did call my teammates nop as they have no map sense and let the enemy take our turrets

They don't know what to prioritise. Turret should be first priority then farming or ganking.

Those nop players went to gank and lost one full lane. They never retreated to protect the inhibitor turret.

Unfortunately I was dead when enemy was pushing that lane.

Finally they retreated just before the base was about to be destroyed

Those nops let the game slip from our hand.

If they are not nops then I don't know what to call them

CharlieFong

No I did not. That is what you mean at first. Those fighter things you are only adding to it afterwards. Now quote from your thread

I am a fighter and was defending the exp lane. While I was defending they went to fight without me.

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Again, by defending will not allow you to earn 600 gold/min because gold from minions are limited, not to mention that enemy will disturb your minion last hit. But then you bring up Minsitthar or whatever passive and challenge me with maths (ref: post 23#), so I calculate out (ref: post 25#), then you say me n**b for earning 400 gold/min (ref: post 26#).

Through out the discussion I never mention why Minsitthar can earn so much gold or why fighter can earn so much gold, neither you mention fighter can earn 600 gold/min. You are clearly said that average player like you earn 600 gold/min and pro player can reach 900 gold/min (ref: post 26#). Your last phrase strongly emphasize I am n**b (ref: post 26#).

Anand

CharlieFong replied at 2020-11-14 09:46 AM
No I did not. That is what you mean at first. Those fighter things you are only adding to it afterwa ...

I think no use explaining it to you

You can understand it however you want

If you can't reach 600 gold per minute you are a nob. Are you happy now?

Synology

Anand replied at 2020-11-11 07:13 PM
You idiot. Can't you see the title? It's not about mm or tank.

It's about the calculation of team ...

No doubt that the calculations are having issues. Based on the calculations, your KDA should be 1.0 instead of 3.0. But because to sugar coat the KDA to solo noobs which ended up thinking they are outstanding, they limit it at 3.0. This ensures that noobs continue to perform as their usual self, and drag the other 4 down the rank.
This is done to achieve a balance.