Nerf Vale

KwonYongki

I think it's time to nerf vale. Among other mages he's only the one that really have high base damage he can even one shot mm even with athena shield, if don't want to lower or remain his damage untouchable at least adjust his cc and give some more time to somehow manage to escape, his ultimate has a slow effect i prefer somehow to remove it it's really annoying combine with ice queen wand or again reduce the knock up duration.
Disclaimer: I'm not a low rank, this hero is just absolutely broken and he can kill almost all ADC hero who's inside his ultimate in addition of skill 1.

Vincenza@849

I agree too. His damage is so high that he can oneshot a marksman even at full health and with Athena's Shield. In addition, he has magical penetration, zoning due to his large aoe and high movement speed out of his passive.
Many players, when using marksmen, mages, assassins, and fighters are afraid of Vale: thus, they don't even try to gank/kill him.

Anand

I agree. The problem is the distance covered by his ultimate. Vale using ultimate skill from a location beyond the reach of MM heroes so they die without a chance for fighting back

Eudora can also one shot MM but it is fine. Because Eudora is within the range of MM's basic attack before casting ultimate. So MM can deal significant damage or kill Eudora before ultimate is cast. There is an equal opportunity for both MM and Eudora but this is not the case for Vale.

aznager

Vincenza@849 replied at 2021-9-21 12:08 AM
I agree too. His damage is so high that he can oneshot a marksman even at full health and with Athen ...

u gank him early game and he cant do sht bc he becomes food.

s5tank

aznager replied at 2021-9-21 12:45 AM
u gank him early game and he cant do sht bc he becomes food.

You can do that with any mage

aznager

s5tank replied at 2021-9-21 08:38 PM
You can do that with any mage

What exactly is the problem. Vale doesn't really do anything early game. He is a late game monster. Pick assassins or fighters with high mobility to dodge skill shots.

s5tank

aznager replied at 2021-9-22 12:01 AM
What exactly is the problem. Vale doesn't really do anything early game. He is a late game monster ...

So is Cecillion. But Vale is simple to use. That's a difference.

aznager

s5tank replied at 2021-9-22 12:23 AM
So is Cecillion. But Vale is simple to use. That's a difference.

Ok, your pt. A hero that is late game monster and easy to use should be nerfed. In that case, then nerf layla.

s5tank

aznager replied at 2021-9-22 12:48 AM
Ok, your pt. A hero that is late game monster and easy to use should be nerfed. In that case, then ...

I don't know where you get that he is late game monster, probably from Mythic V. He is amazing from start if you know how to play him.

aznager

s5tank replied at 2021-9-22 05:05 PM
I don't know where you get that he is late game monster, probably from Mythic V. He is amazing fro ...

Late game he oneshots people, but if u know how to harass him in lv.1 u win. Easy. Two, hes been nerfed so many times that is nerfing him necessarily. Btw, Im mythic glory from solo climbing.