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[Query] Is Demon Hunter Sword worth it?

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Post time 2021-12-29 04:48 PM | Show all posts
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Edited by Magnum_bangbang at 2021-12-29 11:08 PM
CloudDevelic replied at 2021-12-29 04:48 PM
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DHS is bad against pure Armor and good against HP items..... you need to observe t ...

Technically yes. If we imagine situation, somewhere someone buy only pure armor items... BUT in reaity, its make you defence really weak, because armor effective go down with increasing. And if you play tank/fighter, you already have good base armor. You just cant buy only pure armor build. At least you need a magic defence items. So if you buy only pure armor items, other player will crush you and force to buy some health items. Its what i mean. This way, you have no reason to buy only pure armor, except you play against only DHS players, or want to counter heal item, but have no slots to other defence item.

1 crit item (Berserker) gives higher damage output, what do you mean by saying 1 crit item is useless compared to DHS??

Is it? As i remember my and youtubers tests, dps with Berserker is lower than DHS. But i test it like year ago by myself with miya(when she has both builds and meta, and i must choose). And saw youtube compare with Layla(right after re-work). Maybe its also about attack speed. Or maybe something was changed. I thought need to test it again.

P.S. And also, i can tell about Sun. As HoaHoa tell its situationally. Some time you want a crit build. Some DHS time build. Some time tank build. Some time physicle piercing build. Its all for different goals and matchups.
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Edited by Magnum_bangbang at 2021-12-30 04:30 AM
CloudDevelic replied at 2021-12-30 12:05 AM
@Magnum_bangbang

For SEA we usually rush pure armor items now, and get HP from Athena or Oracle etc ...

I was test it 5 min ago. And what i get.
Test with 15 lvl Layla, against 1 lvl Layla dummy at max range, without skills, with 1 item and speed boots.

With Berserker -
30% crit chance(5% from emblems, 25% from item)
440 damage from base attack.
1.65 attack speed.
1014 from crit(well, maybe its 1065, and crit attacks a lil miss a range modifier but not really matter).
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DHS.
5% crit chance
393 damage from base attack.
1.90 attack speed.
+ DHS passive as we calculate a 8% damage of current health. (9 - 1 because any target have armor from level).

Its a hard to test, because crit a random. And you can get a 3 crit in a row and oneshoot target or no any crit and kill target for ages. Random is thing.
So, calculate it in theory, with theory 3k health target.
With berserker we need avergy 6 attacks, to 2 crit(30%). Yeah, 5 attacks with 1 crit deal around 2850 damage, and crit make huge overkill of it. But NVM.
With DHS we are also need a 6 attacks.

But DHS deal 6 attacks with more attack speed. So this way DHS deal a little more damage. BUT. there a one another thing. Its from Layla by max range. Other mm have a better a attack speed scale and lower base damage. And no one give you to keep max range. And Layla is unplayble without good team. And in real combat you will use skills that not deal crit damage or DHS damage. And its not a tank target. And etc. So, DHS is better.

And... You still not get my point. Crit build have more DPS. Not for not ASPD heroes only. For all except heroes like badang or Claude. Even sun, argus and etc deal more damage with crit items. BUT there a few notes, that you might keep in mind. One of them - if you will buy a crit item and you opponent buy a DHS, he will have advantage for a time. You will get compensation, after next 1 or 2 items, for sure. But when you have 1 item vs 1 item he will have advantage. Its what i talking about.
Post time 2022-1-4 06:17 PM | Show all posts
stack it diminishingly, or have the % damage based on the current hp present
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CloudDevelic replied at 2021-12-29 04:48 PM
@Magnum_bangbang

DHS is bad against pure Armor and good against HP items..... you need to observe t ...
DHS is bad against pure Armor and good against HP items..... you need to observe the stats and damage counter better.


Even if they have all HP, the% of damage is still 9% of current health.

Good initial damage, but eventually at 50% health each strike does 4% total health, then 2% at 25%Maximum health.

It's a weapon that seemingly gets weaker as you fight a target which is super counterintuitive.

I mean what if Devour damage was just a% of your physical damage  
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