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Burnzey91

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Samsaras

His power budget went to his 5 seconds of death immunity ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

Samsaras

If you think 4 sec is too little suggest to remove death immunity for other buffs. I always thought death immunity was cheat ability & will support any buffs you propose in exchange for it. You cannot give too much overall power to a hero who can ignore the consequences of his actions for 4 seconds. If you buff argus, when do you thinks those buffs will be used? Yes, during those 4 seconds where you cannot do anything to him in return. Other heroes who have a chase mechanic sometimes have to use them to escape if they take too much dmg. Not argus tho. He will just use ult & then if you cannot escape you can only die ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

Samsaras

Burnzey91 replied at 2022-8-8 08:22 PM
I have a gallery of argus screenshots on my other phone, but people don't tend to play him so I don ...

I don't take screenshots randomly, but I see MVp or gold argus more than bronze Argus (same mythic 5, i maintain 2 accounts at m5 & legend 5 since highest number of players are between that range)

You just have to play around his ultimate. Hide in bush & s1->s2->s1 out repeatedly. Play extra safe without his ult. And he breaks teamfights. If you cc him other enemies kill you. If you don't cc him he kills you. And running is not an option if he times his entrance properly. I'm seeing him more now since he's a good counter to yin.
CC - 4 seconds on cc wasted on argus & he doesn't even die. And now you have no cc for the rest of his team
smoke bomb - only effects nat herself. Just move out of the range &/or focus someone else. It's like saber ulting someone with purify. Just don't
suppression - if u see supress hero, have your ult ready. If they waste supress on you & you don't even die by ulting before supress that's a huge advantage for your team
Karina dance - dance is lost if she atks you & cooldown is long. All basic atk heroes play around using this(the fact that she can't spam s1 & s1 is also her mobility/engage)
flameshot - just go away if they flameshot you. It's not like it's a special argus counter. You can focus other heroes. Also don't engage with your ult. Save it to either run away or prolong the fight (def or atk)

Thanks to his ult, argus will always be a problem, or be irrelevant (mvp or bronze). I wasn't joking when I said remove his death immunity, as he can't be universally strong while having death immunity up his sleeve. Pick a hero you think is strong & then add death immunity to his kit & see if he remains strong or becomes op ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

s5tank

Samsaras replied at 2022-8-9 08:21 AM
I don't take screenshots randomly, but I see MVp or gold argus more than bronze Argus (same mythic ...

You forgot most important thing in all replays:

He is the most squishy fighter in game.

Samsaras

s5tank replied at 2022-8-11 06:13 PM
You forgot most important thing in all replays:

He is the most squishy fighter in game.

Take any fighter & build him mm build & he will be squishy. On the other hand, build fighter build on mm like brody granger & they will be more tanky.
His role is dmg & chase, which is more common in assassins. He needs to depend on his ult to sustain, or can you imagine non-squishy fighter like chou, lapu, etc with a 4 sec invincible mechanic?

So yeah, he's the most squishy most of the time, but he's the most tanky fighter in the game for 4 seconds of his choice. You cannot kill him even if 5 burst mage or 5 mm atk him during that time